Cindy reportedly told Dr. Phil that Casey Anthony suffered gran mal seizures in 2005 and 2008, and suggested that the seizures may be symptomatic of a condition that could make it difficult to "sort fact from fiction."
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Friday, September 9, 2011
Casey had a seizure when Caylee drowned?!
So we all know that Monday is the long awaited Dr. Phil episode where Cindy and George explain Casey's reactions and Caylee's death. Well now we are hearing that they blame Caylee's death on a seizure Casey may have had while swimming with Caylee. They call it "the swimming pool incident".
Cindy reportedly told Dr. Phil that Casey Anthony suffered gran mal seizures in 2005 and 2008, and suggested that the seizures may be symptomatic of a condition that could make it difficult to "sort fact from fiction."
Cindy reportedly told Dr. Phil that Casey Anthony suffered gran mal seizures in 2005 and 2008, and suggested that the seizures may be symptomatic of a condition that could make it difficult to "sort fact from fiction."
Thursday, August 18, 2011
Pontiac Sunfire CRUSHED!
Casey Anthony’s white Pontiac Sunfire was crushed at a central Florida junkyard Thursday. This was the car that everybody swore smelled of death. The jury didn't think was important. (Just saying)
The Anthony's lawer, Mark Lippman brought the car to the junk yard, turned the title over and it was crushed for scrap metal.
The workers were instructed not to sell any part of the Sunfire and as the car sat in the wrecker, you could still see the evidence tape on the trunk.
Tuesday, August 16, 2011
George and Cindy: BACK ON TV!
George and Cindy Anthony will appear on the season premier of the Dr. Phil Show Sept. 12.
In a release, the show said: “Cindy and George have suffered a horrific loss with the untimely death of their granddaughter Caylee, and they have since endured an unprecedented public attack on their family,” says Dr. Phil. “Have these attacks been warranted, or not? I looked them straight in the eye and asked some very tough questions. Despite living under a ‘media microscope’ for years, THEIR story has never really been told and there’s so much more to it than we’ve heard in the media. Throughout this extensive interview, we explore every detail of their ordeal, and they answer every question I know will be on our viewers' minds. Nothing is off limits during this interview."
Cindy Anthony said, “We knew that we’d want to speak at some point, and we figured there was no better place than with Dr. Phil. We are hoping that by doing this interview, we will be able to help other people who may be experiencing struggles of their own. We certainly don’t want anyone to experience what we have these last three years.” George Anthony continues, “We appreciate the way in which Dr. Phil has helped others, and we trust him enough to completely open our hearts in telling our story. He is a professional that understands the uniqueness of our family situation. There’s no one better to do this interview than Dr. Phil. We knew he would ask the difficult questions, and we were right.”
The Anthonys sought no compensation for their interview, asking only that a donation be made to a charitable organization currently being formed to honor their granddaughter. The couple will derive no income from “Caylee’s Fund,” which will be federally sanctioned intending to focus on promoting processes to educate the public about - and advocate for - grandparents’ rights, as well as missing and abused children by maximizing the use of public interactivity to increase efficiency and knowledge.
Tuesday, August 9, 2011
Cindy and George release balloons at Caylee site
They were there as well as a non profit group that are in the process of buying the site and are planning a memorial to be built there in honor of Caylee and other kids. The Bring Kids Home organization unveiled the design of the memorial they hope will be a permanent reminder of Caylee and other missing and abused children.
The group plans to raise the $200,000 needed to build the memorial through donations given by people.
While at the memorial, George and Cindy spoke to the media. They spoke in favor of the memorial, even though the organizer had no idea that they were going to show up.
When asked if they had seen Casey, George replied "no," while Cindy said they couldn't talk about that. "We didn't know how we'd be perceived," George Anthony said. "It's just a great tribute to our Caylee. It's a great tribute to her. Other children have to come home, too. And that's what should be concentrated on now. We know where Caylee's at."
The designer of the memorial hopes to have money raised and memorial done by this time next year.
Anthony family attorney Mark Lippman said he is familiar with the memorial and is looking at whether or not the Anthony's will be a part of it.
Happy 6th Birthday Caylee!
Today it is rainy and stormy in Central Florida. Much like it had been during the length of the Casey Anthony trail and the way it was the day that Casey was found Not Guilty. Today Caylee Marie Anthony turned 6 years old. She would have been entering the first grade in a couple of weeks.
This is the first time that Casey will not be in jail during Caylee's birthday and not "searching" for her as well. Supposedly now she is in a $5.2 million mansion in California hiding out at the moment. Guess she left Ohio since the pics were released. I'm wondering whether we will see a citing of her or the Anthony's today. Any photo ops? Today in Central Florida we will also be seeing the unveiling of the plans for Caylee and for missing children that is planning on being built in the location where Caylee's remains were found.
Candles will be lit for Caylee tonight in memory of her as well as the changing of profile pics today on Facebook.
We wish you a Happy 6th Birthday Caylee Marie. May you rest in peace.
The following is a poem that I found online that was written for Caylee last year on her fifth birthday:
Happy Birthday angel eyes.
the candles of your cake are the stars in the skies.
you should have been getting ready to start in school.
instead of your family trying to play us for fools.
learning to write and ride a bike.
what else would you have liked?
not a day goes by when we don't all think
of how you were gone in just a blink.
what would have been better for us to see.
is for you to have won the national spelling bee.
so have fun in the clouds on your special day.
and let your spirit find us justice for you one day.
Happy Birthday Caylee
This is the first time that Casey will not be in jail during Caylee's birthday and not "searching" for her as well. Supposedly now she is in a $5.2 million mansion in California hiding out at the moment. Guess she left Ohio since the pics were released. I'm wondering whether we will see a citing of her or the Anthony's today. Any photo ops? Today in Central Florida we will also be seeing the unveiling of the plans for Caylee and for missing children that is planning on being built in the location where Caylee's remains were found.
Candles will be lit for Caylee tonight in memory of her as well as the changing of profile pics today on Facebook.
We wish you a Happy 6th Birthday Caylee Marie. May you rest in peace.
Happy Birthday angel eyes.
the candles of your cake are the stars in the skies.
you should have been getting ready to start in school.
instead of your family trying to play us for fools.
learning to write and ride a bike.
what else would you have liked?
not a day goes by when we don't all think
of how you were gone in just a blink.
what would have been better for us to see.
is for you to have won the national spelling bee.
so have fun in the clouds on your special day.
and let your spirit find us justice for you one day.
Happy Birthday Caylee
Friday, July 15, 2011
Casey gets away with it again!
At an emergency hearing Friday, Circuit Judge Lisa Munyon denied a motion from Zenaida Gonzalez's attorneys, Morgan & Morgan, for a deposition scheduled for Tuesday.
Gonzalez is suing Casey for defamation. She claims Casey ruined her life when she told authorities a nanny by the same name took her daughter, Caylee, in 2008. Gonzalez lost her apt., job, and even friends over this lie.
Friday's hearing was pushed back from 8 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. following a motion to remove Judge Jose Rodriguez from the case. No explanation was given. Casey's attorney was the one that wanted Judge Rodriguez to step down after 20 minutes of sidebar.
Shortly after court went to recess Friday morning, defense lawyers from Casey's criminal murder case filed a notice of appeal to review the four guilty verdicts she received for lying to law enforcement.
Once the appeal is filed, Casey would not be required to answer any questions in any deposition until the appeal is over. Basically she can plead the fifth. Hmm...sounds fishy.
Attorney John Morgan served the subpoena to Casey in jail last Tuesday, just hours after a jury acquitted her of first-degree murder. He said he wants Casey to appear for deposition on Tuesday, July 19, at his office in downtown Orlando.
Morgan then filed an emergency motion on Wednesday, asking Judge Rodriguez to compel Casey to appear for the deposition.
Greene said he has another trial scheduled to begin on the same day, and if Casey was to be deposed at that time, she would have no choice but to plead the fifth.
Casey's civil lawyer said the criminal trial for her was "a grueling experience that has left her emotionally and mentally exhausted."
Gonzalez's attorneys said they are worried Casey might leave the Orlando area after her release, but they would do everything in their power to find Casey, should she flee Florida.
They also said they hope to get to the bottom of what happened to Caylee Anthony.
"We've had this case since 2008," said attorney Keith Mitnik, with Morgan & Morgan. "We've been on the back burner, and I'm about to get hot."
This is happening as reports from ABC are stating that George Anthony said he doesn't want his daughter back in his house. The report said George Anthony also is pushing Caylee's Law, The law would make it a crime for parents not to report a child missing in a timely manner. Casey Anthony likely had no plans to move home and is willing to talk only with her brother, Lee.
Thursday, July 7, 2011
Thoughts?
Here are some things I'm sure you my readers will find interesting:
When you click the link you'll probably get a security message, trust me it's ok!
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audio/rrshow/interviews/070611_CASEYANTHONY_familymember.mp3
Emails from Cindy's brother to Cindy
http://community.babycenter.com/post/a4176155/email_from_rick_to_cindy_anthony_82108_she_knew
Cindy's Freudian slip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmGLTPZqBHU
Watching Dr.Drew, I am also shocked that Jesse Grund has said the Anthony family tried to frame him for murder! Apparently they wanted to frame him for drowning!!!! Hmmm..
When you click the link you'll probably get a security message, trust me it's ok!
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audio/rrshow/interviews/070611_CASEYANTHONY_familymember.mp3
Emails from Cindy's brother to Cindy
http://community.babycenter.com/post/a4176155/email_from_rick_to_cindy_anthony_82108_she_knew
Cindy's Freudian slip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmGLTPZqBHU
Watching Dr.Drew, I am also shocked that Jesse Grund has said the Anthony family tried to frame him for murder! Apparently they wanted to frame him for drowning!!!! Hmmm..
Casey Anthony = Susan Smith?
Susan Smith (South Carolina) was sentenced to life in prison for murdering her two sons, 3-year-old Michael Daniel Smith, born October 10, 1991, and 14-month-old Alexander Tyler Smith, born August 5, 1993. She was convicted on July 22, 1995
Casey Anthony (Orlando, Florida) was charged with killing her 2.5 year old daughter Caylee Marie Anthony with chloroform and duct tape. She was found Not Guilty on July 5, 2011.
Smith's case gained worldwide attention shortly after it developed, due to Smith claiming that a black man stole her car and kidnapped her sons. Smith later claimed that she suffered from mental health issues that impaired her judgment.
Anthony's case gained worldwide attention shortly after it developed, due to Casey lying about Caylee being with a nanny named Zanaida Gonzalez Fernandez and not reporting Caylee missing for 31 days while she went clubbing and shopping. She later claimed Zanny had kidnapped Caylee. Then in court claimed that Caylee had drowned in the family pool. Casey blamed sexual abuse and a BIZARRE family life impairing the way she would react to her daughter's death.
On October 25, 1994, Smith initially reported to police that she had been carjacked by a black man who drove away with her sons still in the car. Smith made tearful pleas on television for the rescue and return of her children.
On July 15, 2008 31 days after Caylee was last seen, Casey was confronted by her mother, Cindy Anthony, and reported to police that the nanny took Caylee against her will and that she decided to look for Caylee through other means which she herself claimed was "a stupid thing to do" Searches were immediately started to find Caylee and Zanny.
It later emerged that investigators had been suspicious of Smith's story from the beginning and believed she had killed her own children. From the second day of the investigation, the authorities suspected that Smith knew where the children were.
In the Case of Casey Anthony, from the second day they spent with Casey, investigators knew she had been lying when she took them to Universal Studios in Orlando, Florida and claimed to work there. Apparently she had been telling her whole family she had been working there for a few years and finally confessing to authorities she wasn't working there. There was also a scent of decomposition emanating from her whole car. At this point, law enforcement knew she was lying.
Lakes and ponds began being searched, even the nearby lake in which the children were eventually found. The reason for not finding the children earlier is that the authorities thought the car could have traveled out only about thirty feet and that was the extent of the search.
The areas near the Anthony home were searched and a meter reader, Roy Kronk, found Caylee's remains less than a minute 10 sec drive from the Anthony family home in a wooded area. The reason why the body had not been found earlier was because the area had been flooded.
It was disclosed in her trial that Smith was molested in her teens by her stepfather, who admitted that he had molested Smith when she was a teenager and had consensual sex with her as an adult.
Casey claimed to have been molested by her father, George Anthony and her brother, Lee Anthony and her defense used this as an excuse for her actions and not thinking straight when she knew her daughter was dead. Though this was never proved.
Smith's alleged motive for the deaths — to dispose of her children so that she might have a relationship with a wealthy local man who had no interest in a "ready-made" family
Anthony's alleged motive for Caylee's death-to be free to date her many boyfriends and party with out worrying about Caylee and who was going to babysit her.
What's strange about these two beasts is that they don't seem to care that what they did was wrong. They seem to be in their own world as if they had the right to continue their lives and steal the lives of these beautiful children. They both seemed to be caring mothers who turned out to be cruel, lying, manipulative monsters who would hurt anyone in their family with no remorse or guilt, for the simple reason of their freedom.
Casey Anthony (Orlando, Florida) was charged with killing her 2.5 year old daughter Caylee Marie Anthony with chloroform and duct tape. She was found Not Guilty on July 5, 2011.
Anthony's case gained worldwide attention shortly after it developed, due to Casey lying about Caylee being with a nanny named Zanaida Gonzalez Fernandez and not reporting Caylee missing for 31 days while she went clubbing and shopping. She later claimed Zanny had kidnapped Caylee. Then in court claimed that Caylee had drowned in the family pool. Casey blamed sexual abuse and a BIZARRE family life impairing the way she would react to her daughter's death.
On October 25, 1994, Smith initially reported to police that she had been carjacked by a black man who drove away with her sons still in the car. Smith made tearful pleas on television for the rescue and return of her children.
On July 15, 2008 31 days after Caylee was last seen, Casey was confronted by her mother, Cindy Anthony, and reported to police that the nanny took Caylee against her will and that she decided to look for Caylee through other means which she herself claimed was "a stupid thing to do" Searches were immediately started to find Caylee and Zanny.
It later emerged that investigators had been suspicious of Smith's story from the beginning and believed she had killed her own children. From the second day of the investigation, the authorities suspected that Smith knew where the children were.
In the Case of Casey Anthony, from the second day they spent with Casey, investigators knew she had been lying when she took them to Universal Studios in Orlando, Florida and claimed to work there. Apparently she had been telling her whole family she had been working there for a few years and finally confessing to authorities she wasn't working there. There was also a scent of decomposition emanating from her whole car. At this point, law enforcement knew she was lying.
Lakes and ponds began being searched, even the nearby lake in which the children were eventually found. The reason for not finding the children earlier is that the authorities thought the car could have traveled out only about thirty feet and that was the extent of the search.
The areas near the Anthony home were searched and a meter reader, Roy Kronk, found Caylee's remains less than a minute 10 sec drive from the Anthony family home in a wooded area. The reason why the body had not been found earlier was because the area had been flooded.
It was disclosed in her trial that Smith was molested in her teens by her stepfather, who admitted that he had molested Smith when she was a teenager and had consensual sex with her as an adult.
Casey claimed to have been molested by her father, George Anthony and her brother, Lee Anthony and her defense used this as an excuse for her actions and not thinking straight when she knew her daughter was dead. Though this was never proved.
Smith's alleged motive for the deaths — to dispose of her children so that she might have a relationship with a wealthy local man who had no interest in a "ready-made" family
Anthony's alleged motive for Caylee's death-to be free to date her many boyfriends and party with out worrying about Caylee and who was going to babysit her.
What's strange about these two beasts is that they don't seem to care that what they did was wrong. They seem to be in their own world as if they had the right to continue their lives and steal the lives of these beautiful children. They both seemed to be caring mothers who turned out to be cruel, lying, manipulative monsters who would hurt anyone in their family with no remorse or guilt, for the simple reason of their freedom.
Coincidence?
So we have been having sever storms over here in Central Florida and yup Lightning struck Suburban Drive!
As severe weather passed through on Thursday afternoon, a pine tree near a memorial site for Caylee Marie was damaged by a bolt of lightning. The strike left two 5-foot burn marks down the side of the tree.
The tree is about 5 feet off the pavement on Suburban Drive and the memorial is another 10 to 15 feet beyond that and down into the woods. A short trail which leads down into the woods to the memorial site is essentially at the foot of the tree.
Aside from the weather, the Anthony neighborhood was quiet Thursday with a few people bringing flowers and toys to the memorial for Caylee in the swampy spot where her remains were found.
The memorial, has quadrupled in size since Tuesday's verdict. Hundreds of teddy bears and stuffed animals were piled on the dirt, with hand-written notes. More than two dozen flower bouquets sit there and 27 helium balloons are anchored to the ground.
George Anthony has asked the public to donate the items to charity rather than place them in the woods.
As severe weather passed through on Thursday afternoon, a pine tree near a memorial site for Caylee Marie was damaged by a bolt of lightning. The strike left two 5-foot burn marks down the side of the tree.
The tree is about 5 feet off the pavement on Suburban Drive and the memorial is another 10 to 15 feet beyond that and down into the woods. A short trail which leads down into the woods to the memorial site is essentially at the foot of the tree.
Aside from the weather, the Anthony neighborhood was quiet Thursday with a few people bringing flowers and toys to the memorial for Caylee in the swampy spot where her remains were found.
The memorial, has quadrupled in size since Tuesday's verdict. Hundreds of teddy bears and stuffed animals were piled on the dirt, with hand-written notes. More than two dozen flower bouquets sit there and 27 helium balloons are anchored to the ground.
George Anthony has asked the public to donate the items to charity rather than place them in the woods.
Thursday, June 30, 2011
Day 32 Will Casey Testify?
Police presence is strong, spectators were not allowed in at their normal times and ALL 3 Anthony's are testifying today! What type of excitement will happen today. Krystal H0lloway aka River Cruz, George;s alleged mistress had been seen yesterday waiting to testify. Will she today?
Housekeeping
Baez says this morning he was just handed Cindy's work records and 231 pages of printouts. Baez says he was given phone logs, computer report from state this morning from Gentiva (Cindy's former employer). Complains that it's a discovery violation and would like to depose the new witnesses and subpoena other days. Judge says that they'll later look at whether it's a discovery violation and, if so, whether prejudicial. Judge: Whatever witness you wanna talk with, can depose them after 5:00 today if want to see what they will say. He also said :if one person says they are in A and not in B, it's logical that someone will try to find out if B is the truth.
Krystal Holloway-George's Alleged mistress
*Walks in looking angry. Wonder if she will help or hurt.*
Uses River Cruz as an alias because her father used to call her "River" and her mother's maiden name is Cruz. Met George at a tent when Caylee was missing in August 2008. *Cindy struggling to be able to see her through spectators heads. George seems nervous and cracks his fingers* Admits she had an intimate relationship with George. He went to her house around 12 times.
Looks at jury when tells them that she had a heart to heart conversation with George. He was on couch. Said it was "accident that snowballed out of control." Said it was around Thanksgiving time.
KH: I told him I didn't think he could raise someone who would hurt her child.and that's when he said it was accident that snowballed out of control. Says relationship ended at 4th birthday balloon release.
She says police contacted her 2 years later. They asked if she knew George and if she had an affair with him. She says police had text msg's. Holloway gave LE her phone and letters that George had written to her.
Holloway read text from George on Dec 16 "Just thinking about you. I need you in my life." KH: He didn't show up when supposed to after memorial, didn't call, upset that she was "good enough to sleep with but not call.Her sister sent him a rude message and she never heard from him after that. Holloway says she informed guard gate not to let George in to her complex. Baez asked Holloway if media was hounding her.-Sidebar
When first asked about affair she denied it. She didn't want to get him in trouble. She was scared and embarrassed. She didn't want media to find out. She was in a relationship when she was with George and when she told LE. Finally told LE the truth after they saw the text messages. She was confronted by LE.
She was confronted by LE. Gave interview to tabloid because they let her tell her complete story and not edit things to make her look like trash. Her twin sister got paid for the interview.
Cross Examination
Says that at the time of her meeting with George the Anthony's were well known. JA: "By time you INSERTED yourself into Anthony's life they were already celebrities, weren't they? You sought them out. KH: That's correct. She gave interview to National Enquirer who paid and not others that weren't going to pay her. She felt NE was the only tabloid that would give her honest testimony. Holloway says her family was paid $4000 to talk with National Enquirer. JA: You felt National Enquirer was the one source you could trust to tell your story in fair, honest, non sensational way? KH: Well, he did JA: "You do agree story is much sexier that you're having an affair with George than just a friend? She says she DID have an affair with him. Sidebar when asked about letter George sent.
Holloway was in relationship similar to a marriage when seeing George, she said. Sent letter to her stating her relationship was special to both him and Cindy and he even referenced her daughter and "husband". JA: In letter, did he reference your being a friend to both him and his wife? Send letter signed by both of them? KH: Yes. Ashton reading deposition to Holloway. She said not having affair under oath in Feb. 17, 2010. Holloway says her sister went to Media with story.
*She is clearly lying on stand. Getting nervous and leaning forward on her arms.* KH: In Feb when I told detectives, my sister went to media with it, so I spoke to LE and told them truth within a couple days. Holloway cannot remember date when she changed her story. Thinks she changed story that same week of depo. JA: Your sister goes to media with story...when does National Enquirer contact? KH:Don't remember. JA: How did contact with National Enquirer relate to changing story? KH: I had to change my story because the story had come out. I wanted no part of media.* In sidebar Krystal leans head on hands and starts to pick at her face.*
JA: What George said to you was, "I believe it was an accident and she tried to cover up?" KH: No, he did not. *She is trying not to cry* Ashton reads statement she originally gave to police. In it she said George said Casey tried to cover up accident.He believes it must have been an accident. She reads from statement: "He said that 'I really believe an accident, went wrong, she tried to cover it up."JA: George never told you he was present or knew that to be the case? KH: George did NOT say he 'believed' it. Holloway shakes her head no on the stand. Ashton asks if George told her he was there during "accident." She says he didn't say that.
Sidebar (5) called during Holloway's testimony re: George allegedly pushing Casey against wall. * she removes her blazer*
ReDirect
Holloway on redirect agrees her statement was taken out of context. JB: He told you while he was telling the world [Caylee] was missing, that is was an accident. KH: yes. I never went to anybody. [Detectives] came to my door. Holloway states she does not have a criminal background.* Shakes her heads annoyingly when Ashton objects* JB: Why did you go to Enquirer? KH: Because I didn't want story to be edited. He gave me chance to tell story in full.
ReCross
Holloway cries as Ashton approached her on the stand. Ashton asks her to read statement from Feb. 17, 2010.
Ashton had Holloway reading her statement in Depo where she quoted George as saying " I really BELIEVE it was an accident"
Holloway in statement said George said: "I never thought it would escalate to something so big."Agrees he never said he had anything to do with Caylee's death and that he believes Casey tried to cover it up.
ReReDirect
Told police that he knew it was an accident.
ReReCross
JA: I'm confused. Sustained JA: "In statement you said 'like he knew?' " KH: "YES!" Holloway raised her voice at Ashton when answering yes.
ReReRe Direct
Baez wants to show Holloway something on the computer. Ashton objects. Sidebar.
Before jury entered from break:
JA: Stipulation for jury that Holloway testimony only offered in ref to George testimony, not to be considered for way Caylee died. Holloway statement is no proof of how the child died. JB: "That's what this is. Just more blah, blah, blah, blah, blah" Judge says it's evident an instruction needs to be given to jurors. JP:"We have two trained lawyers that can't even agree as to what the motive may be or may not be. How can we expect the jurors, who are not trained lawyers, to understand it?"
Baez wants some modification...wants the part about "can't be considered as proof for how child died" taken out. Ashton pointed out that George has been impeached plenty enough already-defense didn't use it for impeachment. JA: Significance isn't really to impeach George but to put before jury in hopes they take it for more than it is. Baez argues instruction means jury should all but disregard what Holloway said. JP: "They can believe or disbelieve Mr. Anthony, or any other witness. He says he will give instruction that includes language saying can't use as proof of how child died or Casey guilt/innocence. "Even the lawyers can't agree what the law is or what it means. I am charged with that responsibility." Baez said language judge added puts defense in worse position than state's proposed language did. Perry said instruction will be read as is. He said if he did anything wrong- he'll be graded later if it comes to that. As in appeal.
Jury returns
Dominic Casey-PI *Blue Pen, circles circles?*
Baez asks if he is showing witness a Google map. Dominic says: "Yes sir. Like I pulled up a google?"
Baez wants to talk again about where exactly he searched in the woods (Suburban Dr) a month before Caylee's remains were found. Dominic Casey points to areas on the enlarged map.
Cross Examination
Casey says he sent map to psychic. He is trying to show (by best guess) where he went into woods. The map has pins marking location. Dominic Casey marked it the day he searched area (3 years ago).
Jury shown news footage video of command center from Aug. 2008.
Video shows a closeup of Henkel brand duct tape. * So what? Yes, it was in the house and Casey used it! She got rid of it! ASK HER WHERE IT IS!!!!*
George Anthony
Asking George if duct tape seen in video from search command tent was his. George saw video. He says it could have been someone else's duct tape. Says he doesn't know where video was taken. Baez gives address. George says it wasn't that location. JB: "Sir you didn't recognize that location as being close to your home?" George said command center at Publix not at John Young Parkway.
Sidebar (9) called during George testimony about dog named Mandy in Ohio. Henkel tape is produced in Ohio. GA: Yes, dog named Mandy. Dog had to be put down. Baez is asking how dog was buried. George brought dog home - wrapped a blanket around it - put it in plastic bag.Baez asks if Duct tape used.This happened before Casey was born. George says he doesn't remember. Says it was 30 years ago. Next questions are about dog named Bo. Baez asks if Bo was buried in bag, blanket and wrapped in duct tape. Casey was 4-5. JB: Was Penny the cat buried same way? Ginger the dog? Cinnamon. Misty? George says no dog by that name. Baez asked if when George found how Caylee was found - did he tell law enforcement that's how he buried pets? Obj- sidebar
Sustained no more questions.
Cross Examination
JA: Mr Anthony, have you ever taken a dead pet and thrown it in the swamp. GA: No Sir. Excused. He glares at Baez when walking past him.
Cindy Anthony
*Again repeats the words "So help me God, Yes" *
Talks about how Mandy died and buried.
Cindy says Mandy (dog) was her first baby. When she died, vet wrapped dog with blanket and black plastic. Cindy says vet prepared dog Bo for burial. Was in black plastic with tape. Lee was in 1st grade and Casey 4 years old. Cindy is explaining how other pets were buried. Almost all had something like towel or stuffed animal and then wrapped in plastic. CA: Put Penny the dead cat in 2009 in a bath towel then in plastic bag, then packing tape, then buried.Baez asked if she ever told him she used duct tape to wrap pets? -Sustained
Cross Examination
Did not euthanize pets with chloroform. Sustained. Asks if duct tape was put on nose and mouth. Cindy: no Burdick said Casey a senior in high school and she helped in wrapping dead pets at the time. Cindy said burial procedure was a family tradition. Cindy said tape placed on top/bottom of bags to keep things from coming out. They would mark spots in yard. Walks down and does not look at Casey. Cindy kept emphasizing how they put "special" items with the pets. Like "special" items with Caylee, I suppose.
Lee Anthony
Baez asks Lee Anthony if he remembers Mandy dying. He does not. *Where's the sexual abuse Baez?!* Lee Anthony remembers Cinnamon in black plastic bag and duct tape used to secure bag.
Basically said mom and dad were responsible for burying dead pets.
While court went to lunch, Casey beckoned for someone in the gallery to come over to her. Eventually after lots of speculation everyone found out that apparently it's another attorney.
*Casey seems to be extremely joyful today during recess*
Casey herself says she doesn't want to testify. Casey wishes to NOT testify, she tells Perry. Judge asks Casey if it's her decision not to testify. She replies, "Yes sir." JP: Understand solely your decision? CA: Yes.
The jury now knows the defense is ready to rest. Stipulations are being read to the jury. Will offer business records of Henkel duct tape.
Defense Rests on Day 32! State said rebuttal case will take less than a day.
Jury out of room at the moment.
Judge addressed defense's claim of discovery violation for material from Cindy's prior employer. Mason argued Gentiva records for Cindy's employment. CM: State knew it was Cindy who made those computer searches and waited to subpoena records now. He says the defense is prejudiced by the violation.
Burdick said they are only seeking to introduce 1 page into evidence - also deleted emails from Cindy's work acct. She said they have log-in/log-out record for Cindy for that week & docs showing deleted/sent/rcvd emails from those 2 days Cindy claimed that she did not work.
State wants to blow holes in Cindy's claims she did computer searches for chlorophyll/chloroform. Gentiva's John Camperlando (Executive) from Atlanta ready to testify, Burdick said. CM: "This is not to be a trial by ambush." Mason says in all Cindy's depos and releasing of discovery never did they bring up witnesses claiming Cindy falsely testified. CM: You must not reward the prosecution and support prejudice in capital murder case.
Perry asked about Cindy's depo showing times she was working. LBD: We spent majority of inquiry on computer searches on chloroform.
Cindy said she only searched chlorophyll. JB: Not complete response. Cindy also mentioned chloroform and ingredients. Sims has started to review documents at lunch but not ample time. JP: When did you get records? LDB: Yesterday afternoon. JP: When did you notify defense & provide copies? LDB: Yesterday morning. JP: is this an issue State of Fl knew when they took depo? LDB: I did not anticipate she would dispute the accuracy of her work records so extensively.Cindy said she only searched chlorophyll. JB: Not complete response. Cindy also mentioned chloroform and ingredients. Sims has started to review documents at lunch but not ample time. JP: When did you get records? LDB: Yesterday afternoon. JP: When did you notify defense & provide copies? LDB: Yesterday morning. JP: is this an issue State of Fl knew when they took depo? LDB: I did not anticipate she would dispute the accuracy of her work records so extensively. JP: Other than impeaching her testimony, what prejudice would defense suffer if records brought in? JB: Severely punished because we'd be presenting false evidence and defense certainly didn't knowingly do so. JB: If we call her on sur-rebuttal she might take 5th. It's way too late, close of case, we've rested. We don't want stigma attached to defense that we're submitting false testimony. JP: Unfortunately counsel can't rely upon what witnesses will tell them. Counsel cannot predict if witnesses will go south with their testimony. Judge Perry said this may cause all of her testimony to be stricken. Baez said this is, "No simple issue." Said they will need to have their own experts look through these documents just handed over.LDB: I would never argue JB was trying to dupe jury. If any prejudice at all, can be cured by Baez talking to witness. JP: When Cindy took stand, did you know she was gonna say home vs. work? JB: Yes. JP: You knew she would testify that work records were meaningless? JB: Yes, sir.
Perry rules no discovery violation. State will be allowed to present work records to jury. Baez looked down and pressed his lips together. JP:"Trials are supposed to be about a search for the truth. Juries are supposed to be given sufficient evidence." Judge says he will instruct jurors about credibility and weight of people's testimony.
Judge says in fairness of the defense he is going to give them rest of day to talk with man from Gentiva. JP:"I don't think it's any big surprise that somebody wasn't going to to go out and get these records. " The man has a prior engagement (doctor's appt.) but Perry says he will make him miss it. Perry wants to know more about witnesses medical concurs. Can he miss appointment or come back to Orlando etc. Sims left to interview witnesses and Cindy followed with her lawyer. Court is currently at ease.
Ashton wants to pass can (smell) around and give jurors option to smell it if they want to. Ashton wants to rebut defense witnesses who testified the smell in car was trash not decomposition. Second rebut witness will testify as to its authenticity. JA: I can't find anything that would prohibit jurors from smelling evidence if they want to. Each would have to smell it, though.JB: Nothing Ashton presented gives guidance to court that for first time in FL, jurors should smell and become lay witnesses. JB: Appears Ashton didn't understand your instruction in jury selection and would have to provide case law, not from CA/Guam.
Judge cites case laws and tells Ashton to sit down. "I'm not done talking."
JP: that would violate Casey's due process rights and 6th Amendment rights. Judge will not allow smell tests nor the expert to talk about the can.
Someone just stuck middle finger at Ashton. Taken away by deputy.
*Storm action is intense over here in Florida! God doesn't seem too happy with Casey! I keep looking at the flag outside my window to make sure it doesn't rip off the side of the house. Yesterday had a blackout and lost everything in my blog! Thank goodness for note taking *
Rebuttal
Alina Burroughs-OCSO CSI
Photos introduced into evidence. No other questions of the witness. Not clear what photos show, other than clothing.
Burroughs identifies photos she took of clothes collected during a search warrant. She says they came from Caylee's room.
Excused
Judge is allows photos/docs to be entered into evidence before the jury
Now, officially, the suicide letter is introduced into evidence. The jury takes their time and reads all the pages of the letter *Later blog will have transcript of letter*
Total silence as court reads letters.
"I cannot be strong anymore." he says he misses Caylee Marie so much. He writes "I want my family back."George (in the letter) writes he got a gun to scare people. "Sure that will not bring Caylee Marie back, but was Casey threatened? I miss her. I miss her so much. I am worried for her. Her personal safety is always on my mind" He writes "Cynthia Marie you have always deserved more...."I sit here empty inside for her." He ends the letter with "Caylee here I come. Lee, I am sorry"
Casey just looks at letter and Ashton. Sims asst. keeps talking to her. The Anthony's are not in the courtroom.
Judge excuses jury and tells them they will begin deliberating on Sat. afternoon. Sat. morning the court will hear closing arguments.
Anthony's return. George wipes tears.
Perry takes up some other issue. Asked deputy for photograph. Talking to court spokeswoman.
A man who put his middle finger up earlier in session is in front of Judge.. Matthew Bartlett is 28 Years old. Judge Perry is showing Bartlett pictures. It's pictures of him putting up his middle finger. This young man flipped off Ashton during lunch. Told the Judge it means the "F word" Perry dealing with him now. Has only graduated HS. No further. JP: "You see this sign? Can you read and write?" Bartlett said he read sign on door that said no gestures in court. JP: "Was there anything about that that you did not understand sir?" Perry asks why he shouldn't he held in contempt of court. He apologizes. He says it was something stupid. JP: "There was a reason why you decided to extend Mr. Ashton the courtesy of extending your middle finger. What did he do to deserve the middle finger?"
Kid says he's a server at TGIFriday's at Millenia Mall. Perry asks if he realizes FL taxpayers are spending a lot of $$$ and his actions put everything that's happened at risk. Perry says his actions could have jeopardized all the work attorneys have done.
Perry finds him guilty of direct criminal contempt and sentences him to 6 days in jail. Deputies put him in handcuffs. $623.00 fine. Judge Perry made him explain all his financial information and gave him a public defender for appeal. *That's what happens when you let someone see you flipping the bird. That's why we hide it! LOL*
6 days in jail and $623 fine of guy who gave Ashton the finger in court. Taken away.
Jeff says out loud, "What did I do?!?!"
Baez wants a subpoena for Gentiva records. Perry grants motion for subpoena.
Court in recess
Housekeeping
*Walks in looking angry. Wonder if she will help or hurt.*
Uses River Cruz as an alias because her father used to call her "River" and her mother's maiden name is Cruz. Met George at a tent when Caylee was missing in August 2008. *Cindy struggling to be able to see her through spectators heads. George seems nervous and cracks his fingers* Admits she had an intimate relationship with George. He went to her house around 12 times.
Looks at jury when tells them that she had a heart to heart conversation with George. He was on couch. Said it was "accident that snowballed out of control." Said it was around Thanksgiving time. KH: I told him I didn't think he could raise someone who would hurt her child.and that's when he said it was accident that snowballed out of control. Says relationship ended at 4th birthday balloon release.
She says police contacted her 2 years later. They asked if she knew George and if she had an affair with him. She says police had text msg's. Holloway gave LE her phone and letters that George had written to her.
Holloway read text from George on Dec 16 "Just thinking about you. I need you in my life." KH: He didn't show up when supposed to after memorial, didn't call, upset that she was "good enough to sleep with but not call.Her sister sent him a rude message and she never heard from him after that. Holloway says she informed guard gate not to let George in to her complex. Baez asked Holloway if media was hounding her.-Sidebar
When first asked about affair she denied it. She didn't want to get him in trouble. She was scared and embarrassed. She didn't want media to find out. She was in a relationship when she was with George and when she told LE. Finally told LE the truth after they saw the text messages. She was confronted by LE.
She was confronted by LE. Gave interview to tabloid because they let her tell her complete story and not edit things to make her look like trash. Her twin sister got paid for the interview.
Cross Examination
Says that at the time of her meeting with George the Anthony's were well known. JA: "By time you INSERTED yourself into Anthony's life they were already celebrities, weren't they? You sought them out. KH: That's correct. She gave interview to National Enquirer who paid and not others that weren't going to pay her. She felt NE was the only tabloid that would give her honest testimony. Holloway says her family was paid $4000 to talk with National Enquirer. JA: You felt National Enquirer was the one source you could trust to tell your story in fair, honest, non sensational way? KH: Well, he did JA: "You do agree story is much sexier that you're having an affair with George than just a friend? She says she DID have an affair with him. Sidebar when asked about letter George sent.
Holloway was in relationship similar to a marriage when seeing George, she said. Sent letter to her stating her relationship was special to both him and Cindy and he even referenced her daughter and "husband". JA: In letter, did he reference your being a friend to both him and his wife? Send letter signed by both of them? KH: Yes. Ashton reading deposition to Holloway. She said not having affair under oath in Feb. 17, 2010. Holloway says her sister went to Media with story.
*She is clearly lying on stand. Getting nervous and leaning forward on her arms.* KH: In Feb when I told detectives, my sister went to media with it, so I spoke to LE and told them truth within a couple days. Holloway cannot remember date when she changed her story. Thinks she changed story that same week of depo. JA: Your sister goes to media with story...when does National Enquirer contact? KH:Don't remember. JA: How did contact with National Enquirer relate to changing story? KH: I had to change my story because the story had come out. I wanted no part of media.* In sidebar Krystal leans head on hands and starts to pick at her face.*
JA: What George said to you was, "I believe it was an accident and she tried to cover up?" KH: No, he did not. *She is trying not to cry* Ashton reads statement she originally gave to police. In it she said George said Casey tried to cover up accident.He believes it must have been an accident. She reads from statement: "He said that 'I really believe an accident, went wrong, she tried to cover it up."JA: George never told you he was present or knew that to be the case? KH: George did NOT say he 'believed' it. Holloway shakes her head no on the stand. Ashton asks if George told her he was there during "accident." She says he didn't say that.
Sidebar (5) called during Holloway's testimony re: George allegedly pushing Casey against wall. * she removes her blazer*
ReDirect
Holloway on redirect agrees her statement was taken out of context. JB: He told you while he was telling the world [Caylee] was missing, that is was an accident. KH: yes. I never went to anybody. [Detectives] came to my door. Holloway states she does not have a criminal background.* Shakes her heads annoyingly when Ashton objects* JB: Why did you go to Enquirer? KH: Because I didn't want story to be edited. He gave me chance to tell story in full.
ReCross
Holloway cries as Ashton approached her on the stand. Ashton asks her to read statement from Feb. 17, 2010.
Ashton had Holloway reading her statement in Depo where she quoted George as saying " I really BELIEVE it was an accident"
Holloway in statement said George said: "I never thought it would escalate to something so big."Agrees he never said he had anything to do with Caylee's death and that he believes Casey tried to cover it up.
ReReDirect
Told police that he knew it was an accident.
ReReCross
JA: I'm confused. Sustained JA: "In statement you said 'like he knew?' " KH: "YES!" Holloway raised her voice at Ashton when answering yes.
ReReRe Direct
Baez wants to show Holloway something on the computer. Ashton objects. Sidebar.
Before jury entered from break:
JA: Stipulation for jury that Holloway testimony only offered in ref to George testimony, not to be considered for way Caylee died. Holloway statement is no proof of how the child died. JB: "That's what this is. Just more blah, blah, blah, blah, blah" Judge says it's evident an instruction needs to be given to jurors. JP:"We have two trained lawyers that can't even agree as to what the motive may be or may not be. How can we expect the jurors, who are not trained lawyers, to understand it?"
Baez wants some modification...wants the part about "can't be considered as proof for how child died" taken out. Ashton pointed out that George has been impeached plenty enough already-defense didn't use it for impeachment. JA: Significance isn't really to impeach George but to put before jury in hopes they take it for more than it is. Baez argues instruction means jury should all but disregard what Holloway said. JP: "They can believe or disbelieve Mr. Anthony, or any other witness. He says he will give instruction that includes language saying can't use as proof of how child died or Casey guilt/innocence. "Even the lawyers can't agree what the law is or what it means. I am charged with that responsibility." Baez said language judge added puts defense in worse position than state's proposed language did. Perry said instruction will be read as is. He said if he did anything wrong- he'll be graded later if it comes to that. As in appeal.
Jury returns
Dominic Casey-PI *Blue Pen, circles circles?*
Baez asks if he is showing witness a Google map. Dominic says: "Yes sir. Like I pulled up a google?"
Baez wants to talk again about where exactly he searched in the woods (Suburban Dr) a month before Caylee's remains were found. Dominic Casey points to areas on the enlarged map.
Cross Examination
Casey says he sent map to psychic. He is trying to show (by best guess) where he went into woods. The map has pins marking location. Dominic Casey marked it the day he searched area (3 years ago).
Jury shown news footage video of command center from Aug. 2008.
Video shows a closeup of Henkel brand duct tape. * So what? Yes, it was in the house and Casey used it! She got rid of it! ASK HER WHERE IT IS!!!!*
George Anthony
Asking George if duct tape seen in video from search command tent was his. George saw video. He says it could have been someone else's duct tape. Says he doesn't know where video was taken. Baez gives address. George says it wasn't that location. JB: "Sir you didn't recognize that location as being close to your home?" George said command center at Publix not at John Young Parkway.
Sidebar (9) called during George testimony about dog named Mandy in Ohio. Henkel tape is produced in Ohio. GA: Yes, dog named Mandy. Dog had to be put down. Baez is asking how dog was buried. George brought dog home - wrapped a blanket around it - put it in plastic bag.Baez asks if Duct tape used.This happened before Casey was born. George says he doesn't remember. Says it was 30 years ago. Next questions are about dog named Bo. Baez asks if Bo was buried in bag, blanket and wrapped in duct tape. Casey was 4-5. JB: Was Penny the cat buried same way? Ginger the dog? Cinnamon. Misty? George says no dog by that name. Baez asked if when George found how Caylee was found - did he tell law enforcement that's how he buried pets? Obj- sidebarSustained no more questions.
Cross Examination
JA: Mr Anthony, have you ever taken a dead pet and thrown it in the swamp. GA: No Sir. Excused. He glares at Baez when walking past him.
Cindy Anthony
*Again repeats the words "So help me God, Yes" *
Talks about how Mandy died and buried.
Cindy says Mandy (dog) was her first baby. When she died, vet wrapped dog with blanket and black plastic. Cindy says vet prepared dog Bo for burial. Was in black plastic with tape. Lee was in 1st grade and Casey 4 years old. Cindy is explaining how other pets were buried. Almost all had something like towel or stuffed animal and then wrapped in plastic. CA: Put Penny the dead cat in 2009 in a bath towel then in plastic bag, then packing tape, then buried.Baez asked if she ever told him she used duct tape to wrap pets? -Sustained
Cross Examination
Did not euthanize pets with chloroform. Sustained. Asks if duct tape was put on nose and mouth. Cindy: no Burdick said Casey a senior in high school and she helped in wrapping dead pets at the time. Cindy said burial procedure was a family tradition. Cindy said tape placed on top/bottom of bags to keep things from coming out. They would mark spots in yard. Walks down and does not look at Casey. Cindy kept emphasizing how they put "special" items with the pets. Like "special" items with Caylee, I suppose.
Baez asks Lee Anthony if he remembers Mandy dying. He does not. *Where's the sexual abuse Baez?!* Lee Anthony remembers Cinnamon in black plastic bag and duct tape used to secure bag.
Basically said mom and dad were responsible for burying dead pets.
*Casey seems to be extremely joyful today during recess*
Casey herself says she doesn't want to testify. Casey wishes to NOT testify, she tells Perry. Judge asks Casey if it's her decision not to testify. She replies, "Yes sir." JP: Understand solely your decision? CA: Yes.
The jury now knows the defense is ready to rest. Stipulations are being read to the jury. Will offer business records of Henkel duct tape.
Defense Rests on Day 32! State said rebuttal case will take less than a day.
Jury out of room at the moment.
Judge addressed defense's claim of discovery violation for material from Cindy's prior employer. Mason argued Gentiva records for Cindy's employment. CM: State knew it was Cindy who made those computer searches and waited to subpoena records now. He says the defense is prejudiced by the violation.
Burdick said they are only seeking to introduce 1 page into evidence - also deleted emails from Cindy's work acct. She said they have log-in/log-out record for Cindy for that week & docs showing deleted/sent/rcvd emails from those 2 days Cindy claimed that she did not work.
State wants to blow holes in Cindy's claims she did computer searches for chlorophyll/chloroform. Gentiva's John Camperlando (Executive) from Atlanta ready to testify, Burdick said. CM: "This is not to be a trial by ambush." Mason says in all Cindy's depos and releasing of discovery never did they bring up witnesses claiming Cindy falsely testified. CM: You must not reward the prosecution and support prejudice in capital murder case.
Perry asked about Cindy's depo showing times she was working. LBD: We spent majority of inquiry on computer searches on chloroform.
Cindy said she only searched chlorophyll. JB: Not complete response. Cindy also mentioned chloroform and ingredients. Sims has started to review documents at lunch but not ample time. JP: When did you get records? LDB: Yesterday afternoon. JP: When did you notify defense & provide copies? LDB: Yesterday morning. JP: is this an issue State of Fl knew when they took depo? LDB: I did not anticipate she would dispute the accuracy of her work records so extensively.Cindy said she only searched chlorophyll. JB: Not complete response. Cindy also mentioned chloroform and ingredients. Sims has started to review documents at lunch but not ample time. JP: When did you get records? LDB: Yesterday afternoon. JP: When did you notify defense & provide copies? LDB: Yesterday morning. JP: is this an issue State of Fl knew when they took depo? LDB: I did not anticipate she would dispute the accuracy of her work records so extensively. JP: Other than impeaching her testimony, what prejudice would defense suffer if records brought in? JB: Severely punished because we'd be presenting false evidence and defense certainly didn't knowingly do so. JB: If we call her on sur-rebuttal she might take 5th. It's way too late, close of case, we've rested. We don't want stigma attached to defense that we're submitting false testimony. JP: Unfortunately counsel can't rely upon what witnesses will tell them. Counsel cannot predict if witnesses will go south with their testimony. Judge Perry said this may cause all of her testimony to be stricken. Baez said this is, "No simple issue." Said they will need to have their own experts look through these documents just handed over.LDB: I would never argue JB was trying to dupe jury. If any prejudice at all, can be cured by Baez talking to witness. JP: When Cindy took stand, did you know she was gonna say home vs. work? JB: Yes. JP: You knew she would testify that work records were meaningless? JB: Yes, sir.
Perry rules no discovery violation. State will be allowed to present work records to jury. Baez looked down and pressed his lips together. JP:"Trials are supposed to be about a search for the truth. Juries are supposed to be given sufficient evidence." Judge says he will instruct jurors about credibility and weight of people's testimony.
Judge says in fairness of the defense he is going to give them rest of day to talk with man from Gentiva. JP:"I don't think it's any big surprise that somebody wasn't going to to go out and get these records. " The man has a prior engagement (doctor's appt.) but Perry says he will make him miss it. Perry wants to know more about witnesses medical concurs. Can he miss appointment or come back to Orlando etc. Sims left to interview witnesses and Cindy followed with her lawyer. Court is currently at ease.
Ashton wants to pass can (smell) around and give jurors option to smell it if they want to. Ashton wants to rebut defense witnesses who testified the smell in car was trash not decomposition. Second rebut witness will testify as to its authenticity. JA: I can't find anything that would prohibit jurors from smelling evidence if they want to. Each would have to smell it, though.JB: Nothing Ashton presented gives guidance to court that for first time in FL, jurors should smell and become lay witnesses. JB: Appears Ashton didn't understand your instruction in jury selection and would have to provide case law, not from CA/Guam.
Judge cites case laws and tells Ashton to sit down. "I'm not done talking."
JP: that would violate Casey's due process rights and 6th Amendment rights. Judge will not allow smell tests nor the expert to talk about the can.
Someone just stuck middle finger at Ashton. Taken away by deputy.
*Storm action is intense over here in Florida! God doesn't seem too happy with Casey! I keep looking at the flag outside my window to make sure it doesn't rip off the side of the house. Yesterday had a blackout and lost everything in my blog! Thank goodness for note taking *Rebuttal
Alina Burroughs-OCSO CSI
Photos introduced into evidence. No other questions of the witness. Not clear what photos show, other than clothing.
Burroughs identifies photos she took of clothes collected during a search warrant. She says they came from Caylee's room.
Excused
Judge is allows photos/docs to be entered into evidence before the jury
Total silence as court reads letters.
"I cannot be strong anymore." he says he misses Caylee Marie so much. He writes "I want my family back."George (in the letter) writes he got a gun to scare people. "Sure that will not bring Caylee Marie back, but was Casey threatened? I miss her. I miss her so much. I am worried for her. Her personal safety is always on my mind" He writes "Cynthia Marie you have always deserved more...."I sit here empty inside for her." He ends the letter with "Caylee here I come. Lee, I am sorry"
Casey just looks at letter and Ashton. Sims asst. keeps talking to her. The Anthony's are not in the courtroom.
Judge excuses jury and tells them they will begin deliberating on Sat. afternoon. Sat. morning the court will hear closing arguments.
Anthony's return. George wipes tears.
Perry takes up some other issue. Asked deputy for photograph. Talking to court spokeswoman.
A man who put his middle finger up earlier in session is in front of Judge.. Matthew Bartlett is 28 Years old. Judge Perry is showing Bartlett pictures. It's pictures of him putting up his middle finger. This young man flipped off Ashton during lunch. Told the Judge it means the "F word" Perry dealing with him now. Has only graduated HS. No further. JP: "You see this sign? Can you read and write?" Bartlett said he read sign on door that said no gestures in court. JP: "Was there anything about that that you did not understand sir?" Perry asks why he shouldn't he held in contempt of court. He apologizes. He says it was something stupid. JP: "There was a reason why you decided to extend Mr. Ashton the courtesy of extending your middle finger. What did he do to deserve the middle finger?"
Kid says he's a server at TGIFriday's at Millenia Mall. Perry asks if he realizes FL taxpayers are spending a lot of $$$ and his actions put everything that's happened at risk. Perry says his actions could have jeopardized all the work attorneys have done.
6 days in jail and $623 fine of guy who gave Ashton the finger in court. Taken away.
Jeff says out loud, "What did I do?!?!"
Baez wants a subpoena for Gentiva records. Perry grants motion for subpoena.
Court in recess
Wednesday, June 29, 2011
Day 31 of the trial! Defense might rest!
June 15, 2008: Caylee visits her great-grandfather at an assisted living facility. A video is later produced in an attempt to verify the sighting. Cindy and Caylee allegedly go swimming in the Anthony's pool. Afterwards, Cindy takes the ladder away from the pool and closes the gate.June 15, 2011:The prosecution rests its case against Casey
June 16, 2008:Last sighting/death of Caylee Anthony
June 16, 2011:On the third anniversary of Caylee's death, Jose Baez questions his first witnesses.
July15, 2008: 31 days since Caylee was last seen alive. Cindy calls and tells 911 dispatcher: "There is something wrong. I found my daughter's car today [and] it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car."
June 29, 2011: 31 days since the Casey Anthony trial, not including Jury selection, started. Defense might rest its case today.
WOW! What a bunch of coincidences!
Ann Finnell said she will rest on her memorandum and case law she submitted. Judge asked if she's talked to Casey and whether she concurs. Finnell said she hasn't, but she thinks other counsel has or can. Judge informed her no other counsel present. Casey speaks for herself, tells judge that she agrees with Finnell. Ashton said that this is not a final opinion because it's going to another court for review. He said even if affirmed on appeal, ruling applies only to that defendant in his own particular case. Judge Perry will reserve ruling on this motion til later date.
(looks at Casey, Casey looked down. She even repeated the word "so help me God" after completing the oath, instead of saying yes or no like normal)
JB: Recall incident of Lee going into Casey's room at night? CA: No. JB: Ever have to deal with an issue-- Objection/sidebar. *personal note-remember what I said about people who wear purple! She's wearing purple again!*
JB: Do you recall saying 6 mos ago you still believed Caylee was alive? Yes. Being truthful about that? Yes. Cindy Anthony held memorial for Caylee in Feb. 2009
JB: You requested Caylee's remains be cremated? Yes. JB:Two yrs later you still held belief that Caylee was alive, despite that? Burdick Objection / sustained.
*Could defense be saying that Cindy was in denial after knowing Caylee drowned*
JB: Your ability to block all that out part of your faith? Obj/sustained. Cindy Anthony remembers videotape explaining that George Anthony had blown up at media due to someone saying that Caylee drowned. JB: You expressed drowning was new theory? CA: It wasn't new theory, it was media's statement regarding that. Clarified that the possibility of drowning was spoken about with LE. Casey told her parents she was aware her dad had blown up in the media. JB: Wasn't true because it had just happened, hadn't it? CA: I don't know, she could have heard it from someone in jail. Baez asked Cindy if she knew there were no tv's in cells at the jail. She said she knew.
Cross Examination
Cindy told Casey the media's new theory was Caylee drowned. State said Casey said "surprise surprise" right? CA: Yes. Cindy said media was screaming at them and throwing out theories. She thought at the time Caylee was alive & missing. Baez said that "Surprise, Surprise" was in regards to the media speculating things.
Baez asked about one of George's statements, shown page to review. Baez asks George how he knew Caylee would be found in woods. George said Baez is taking 2008 statement out of context. GA: That was in context of my LE experience and decomposing bodies, not in relation to Caylee. Ashton objects, Perry sustains. Told police that in Ohio, as LE, he smelled decomposition in woods, car, and houses before. George confirms he walked fence area on Suburban Drive. Said he walked a bunch of streets in Orlando during search. Said he needed to clear his mind. Baez trying to ask if he walked past remains area or "other wooded area" in Orlando. George says yes, in Oct. while looking for a new command center. George says it was off the road-but Baez says it was "in the woods." JB: First night LE at your home, pulled Melich aside and told him about car? GA: Not first night, 16th, told him about it then. George says he demanded answers from Det. Melich to help find granddaughter. Says that no matter how Baez is spinning things, he had the right as a father and grandfather to ask what was going on. Perry cut him off. Said he was hysterical the day Caylee reported missing. GA: For you to say I was doing something wrong. You're wrong JB: Did you pull Melich aside as leaving and told him something had happened to Caylee and Casey lying? GA: Of course something happened to Caylee..she was missing. Casey was last person I saw with her. I put 1 + 1 Casey shaking her head and writing lots of notes during testimony. George says he may have said his daughter lives on the edge. George said he is 100% positive he smelled human decomp. JB: Tell LE Casey lives on the edge? GA: Possibly, I don't remember, but my daughter does have tendency to live on the edge. George says he may have said negative things about his daughter. He says he was cooperating with LE to find Caylee. Baez asks if George was undercover (for law enforcement) George says he tried to keep Casey upbeat in jail visits. JB: Didn't say any of those negative things to her at jail? GA: No, was trying to keep her upbeat, get answers about Caylee. JB: You knew she wanted out of jail? GA: Yes. JB: Couldn't make bond because you wouldn't put up the house? Objection/sustained. Sidebar after Baez asks George is he testified against Casey before grand jury. (George trembling and crying as he looks at Casey. She ignore his looks)
Baez reads statement in depo. where George said he smelled decomp but that it wasn't human decomp. Ashton stops him and tells him to read COMPLETE answer. Baez tries to tell Judge to tell Ashton to let him conduct his questioning. (BACKFIRE) Judge tells him to read EVERYTHING. Baez reads and looks defeated like a punished child. Baez: "Explanation you gave during your deposition was clearly that it was trash."When George says there is a difference between garbage and trash Casey leans head on hand. GA: "You're trying to take this joy of my life away from me sir and you can't do it anymore. I can close my eyes at the moment and smell that again. How dare you sir" George tells Baez he started car, went home with Cindy. Casey shakes head no while hiding head in hands. GA: "My emotions were all over the place." George says he didn't want to believe then his daughter could be responsible for taking life of granddaughter. Baez asks George about suicide attempt. GA: "Yes sir I did" (try to commit suicide). Baez asks George about suicide note: "you expressed some guilt, didn't you?" George was hospitalized. Baez asks if he made media appearances week later. GA cannot remember. Casey looks FURIOUS! JB: Go on media outlets and advocate innocence of your daughter in Aug 2009? Baez asks if George recalls being paid $20 K for appearance on 48 hours GA: "Mr Baez, I have been nice to you & have tried to answer the questions to the best of my ability. I did everything I could possibly do to bring awareness...to everyone who fell in love with [Caylee]." JB: All of these appearances stopped when allegations of abuse came up? GA: I believe that was done through you sir.
George leans his head down and as he walks away looks at Casey, she ignores him. *this BEAST of a chick is PURE EVIL!*
As they went to recess George asked if he could talk to Ashton and Ashton answered politely that he couldn't. Ashton explained to George he couldn't speak with him in the break while George was on direct examination .George then went over to Cindy and hugged for an extensive period and started crying. Casey was wiping dry tears when they came back from break. Jury wasn't there.
Casey is signing documents given to her by attorneys.
Recalls being asked by Ashton if he molested Casey. Baez tells him penalties of molestation and says George would never admit to it. Casey "cries" and shakes head no. George says he would never hurt her in that way. Baez says "only in that way" Questioning goes back to gas can. Casey stops "crying" JB: Casey has taken those gas cans a number of times to fill car up with gas. GA: Yes. Baez put gas can on witness stand, it's sitting right in front of George. Defense appears to have given Casey documents to sign. GA:Me and my daughter had an argument over the gas cans. Myself, my daughter, God knows the truth. " JB: " anyone else you wanna throw in..a dog maybe?" WOW!
JB: Called police when missing June 24? GA:Yes. JB: Reported stolen? GA: Yes, this and another can. JB: First time reported gas cans stolen? GA: Yes. George is handed a document by Baez. Perry asked Baez to move the gas can because the jury cannot see George. George being confronted with depo where he denied putting tape on gas can. Baez keeps referring to the argument as "allegedly" George tells him that it DID happened. George said it wasn't an argument until Casey slammed cans and told him "Here's your fucking gas cans!" George says tape was not on gas can then.
In deposition George said that tape was not on gas cans the first time cans were taken by LE and that he did not put them there. George recalls that. Ashton called questioning and answering between Baez and George "sparring"
Cross Examination
Ashton says he doesn't know basis of JB's objection. JB: Has no basis; he knows no gun involved in suicide attempt. Ashton says revealed in suicide note that George got gun with intent to go get answers from Casey's friends, then kill himself. Ashton says note rebuts defense claim George knew. Perry reviewed suicide note to determine admissibility. Ashton says George mentions gun on page four of note. Baez said its hearsay and objects. JA: Statement contains comments of guilt, regret but not particulars alleged by defense. Ashton said letter/note contains NO admissions to molestation of Casey or knowledge of what happened to Caylee. He read the note without jury present. In note, George asks why- why didn't Casey turn to anyone. Baez had a big grin on his face and said Ashton has self serving exception. Baez says George wrote this letter to appear innocent. He dropped papers on defense table. Baez says George took some blood pressure pills and a 6 pack of beer to get attention. Judge Perry:"It looks as though the defense has made Mr. Anthony's state of mind an issue. Someone opened the door and Mr. Ashton is trying to walk through it." JA: "I was glad for them to open that door. Innuendo of George knowledge was made before jury. That's why letter should be admissible." Perry thinks door has been opened. Needs time to contemplate. Ashton says he'll introduce suicide note during rebuttal.
Proffer:Jury not in room
George explains why he bought a gun. George said he was going to force people at gunpoint to tell him what happened to Caylee. Cops wouldn't let him keep it cause Casey was there and it violated probation. Said he still has suicidal feelings even today. Id's suicidal note. Casey glares at him. Ashton says in January 2009 he went to a hotel to take his life. George said yes. He contacted family to say his goodbyes. GA: "I needed at that time to go and be with Caylee..because I believe I failed her. If it weren't for law enforcement, I wouldn't be here today." *George is broken. This is truly heartbreaking.* George says he it took hours to write the note. Baez objects to all the questioning saying it's beyond the scope. *George stares at Baez and shakes his head no* Ashton argues this is direct rebuttal of defense. Perry: Issue of suicide brought out in defense's cross exam. Court permitted line of questioning.
Jury allowed back in.
George reiterates what he said during proffer. He brought gun home and LE immediately confiscated it. Doesn't know why he picked that particular date to commit suicide (Jan. 22, 2009) He said he needed to be with Caylee. Contacted Cindy, Lee, parents, and sister and told them that he was fine. George says he wrote letter to wife Cindy. He said he didn't want to be in this world anymore. He couldn't tell her face to face. Letter is 8 pages long.
Redirect
Says he doesn't need a break. *Cheney Mason is leaning back and looking directly up at ceiling. I really hope jury is taking notes of Casey's attitude* Says during deposition George and Ashton "sparred" as well. Says he would classify the questioning between himself and Baez "sparring" as well. George knew that he couldn't have firearms in the house and that Casey would go back to jail if gun was found. Casey was almost taken to jail at that moment. GA: That is correct * So what! He wanted her to go back to jail because she is GUILTY!!!* Bought beer when he attempted suicide. Does not remember how much. Said he had different medicines not sure exactly what. Baez minimizing suicide attempt. "beer and blood pressure medication." When body was found on Dec. 11, 2008, did not know what was taken in 1st search warrant GA: Was not at home to see search warrant served, but knows LEO went through entire house. George thinks 70 or 80 items taken from home. GA: "All I can tell you is our home was turned upside down."Said it took days to put back together. Does not know when gas cans were taken.
Apparently, as the Judge was walking to get some lunch, a man started yelling at him saying that the Judge tampers with juries. He then was inside the courthouse handing out pamphlets near jury room. Mark Schmidter arrested for protesting outside the designated free speech zones outside the courthouse. He has nothing to do with the case, but Judge Perry is handling it. His bail is set at $2500 for indirect criminal contempt. . He said he wanted to represent himself. He will have a hearing on July 6th.
*This idiot of a man, now has wasted the courts time on him!*
JB: Dec 20, second search warrant for home? Yes. You were home, got confrontational with officers? GA: Yes.GA says he was asked to step outside. JB: Told Sgt Allen, "Take your fucking minions and get out of my house?" Obj/sustained. JB: State atty issued subpoena for your fingerprints? Probably happened right around that time, George replied. JB:Did you ask D.Casey what he was doing in those woods one month before Caylee found? GA:No, never have. JB:In early Jan 2009, did you feel the walls closing in on you? GA:I don't understand question. JB:Knew you were being investigated? George said he always cooperated with LE, even with Baez. He said he had nothing to hide and Casey shakes head no and swipes her hands over her mouth, as if holding herself.
JB: You called everybody on date of alleged suicide to let them know you were gonna commit suicide? GA:Yes. JB:Called me? GA:Yes. JB:When was next time you were on Fox news? GA:No idea. JB:Within 48 hrs? GA:Don't believe so.
ReReCross
JA: Learn of remains before/after plane? GA: Got call that morning before boarding plane that they'd found small child.George said they were taken to Ritz Carlton; someone had arranged on their behalf. He said they had some time on 5hr flight to talk a little, but not until in car leavng airport could they be alone and show emotion. JA: You and your wife had dinner that night at Ritz Carlton with Mr. Baez? GA: Yes. Objection. Baez asks to approach.-SIDEBAR JA: Cooperated with law enforcement, also with Baez? GA: Yes. JA: With anyone who could help you find Caylee? GA: Yes. JA: Dec 19 remains ID'd? GA: Yes. JA: Anger at LE was day after you got confirmation that Caylee was dead? GA: Yes.
ReReDirect
JB: Ashton asked if you were taken from airport to Ritz Carlton? GA:Yes. JB:Wasn't by LE, was it? GA: Don't know. JB: Good Morning America paid for Ritz? GA: I don't know who actually paid for it. JB: Interview have to do anything in exchange for staying at Ritz? GA: No sir.
Brandon Sparks-Roy Kronk's Son. Coast Guard
He does drug interventions, search and rescues. At sea 3-4 months at a time. BS: "Roy Kronk is my biological father." JB: Estranged from him? BS: Yes, since I was 8 yrs old. Sparks began speaking with Kronk again on near nightly basis since June 2008 to Feb 2009. JB: Kronk tell you he knew something about this case? BS: Yes. JB: That he knew where the remains were. BS: Yes. JB: Father ever mention he found Caylee's skull? BS: Yes. JB: Prior to Dec 11? BS: Yes
Sparks said it was in Nov, he knows that because of Thanksgiving. *reminder, Kronk found skull in August and called LE then multiple times!* When Kronk told him on Dec 11 he'd found remains, Sparks said asked him why he didn't get them earlier. Baez introduces Sparks' phone records. JB: Hold/held ill will for your father? BS: No sir.
Cross Examination
LDB: Not til Oct 2009 you signed statement prepared for you regarding knowledge you had in this case? BS: Yes. LDB: In statement, you refer to phone call you mentioned today? BS: Yes. Burdick hands him phone records; he IDs his/Kronk's numbers. LDB: Did not tell your mom you instituted contact with your father? BS: No. LDB: Kept it from her for substantial time after doing so? BS: Yes. LDB: In Aug 2009 you signed statement typed for you by someone else? (Shows to him). BS:Yes, ma'am. LDB: When you signed statement, that's when you remembered or had help remembering conversation was prior to Thanksgiving? BS: Conversation about skull was in Nov; wasn't til Dec 11 that it became relevant. His mom and wife also reminded him that he spoke with Kronk back in Nov. on Dec. 11.She asked if he saw Kronk on Dec. 11 on the TV. He said yes. Roy Kronk was on TV for the first time on Dec. 19, 2008.
ReDirect
JB: Questioned by LE in 2009 or someone else? BS:I was contacted by a detective, Mortimer Smith. JB: He worked for defense? BS: Yes. JB: Ever spoken to Yuri Melich? BS: No sir. Says he doesn't know who that is. BS said originally didn't put much stock in what his dad said because he had habit of saying far-fetched things. Objection/sustained.
ReCross
LDB: Father tell you he had taken skull, had at home/car, done anything else to it in Nov 2008? BS: No ma'am.
ReReDirect
JB: Father told you he was gonna be rich and famous? BS: Yes sir. No further questions.
Roy Kronk
JB:After you made discovery, put aside by LE? RK: Not really, told to stay by my truck. JB: Deputy asked you to write statement? RK: Yes. JB: Detectives arrived and asked you to go somewhere to speak privately? RK: Just went to their car. JB: At that time you gave recorded statement? LE advised you they would record statement? RK: Yes. JB: Obviously you wanted to be truthful and give them as much info as possible. RK: Yes JB: Didn't tell LE you touched skull? RK: No, that I used meter stick to gently raise. JB: Never stated you called them 4 times in Aug? RK: I called Crime Line.
JB: LE talked to you again on Dec 17? RK: Yes. JB: It was then when you changed your story? RK: No. JB: Time you changed it was Dec 17? RK: That was first time officially, had changed it long before that. JB: Your 2nd statement, skull is out of bag vs drop out? Why did you change your story? RK: After had a chance to calm down, run events through my mind, I realized it. JB: Would you say you were excited or calm? RK: I was overwhelmed. JB: Never mentioned meter stick in eye socket? RK: If I did, it wasn't intentionally. I had helicopters over me, alot going on. JB: Make 7 statements before you mentioned sticking meter stick in eye socket? RK: I have no idea how many statements I gave.
Deputy Edward Turso
Arrived on scene Dec. 11, 2008 He said Kronk never told him he called before. JB:Did Kronk tell you he'd called Crime Line in Aug? ET: No. JB: Tell him not to tell anyone? ET: Not at all.
Yuri Melich
Melich said he spoke to Kronk for about 15 mins on Dec. 11. Melich said Kronk never told him he called Crimeline that day. JB: Have to clarify with Kronk story of skull rolling out of bag? YM: Yes, obtained another statement from him. Baez showed statement to Melich. Dec 17, 2008 was the first time he realized Kronk called 4 times about remains. Melich said "Outstanding" when he was told he can leave courthouse for the day.
No Cross but LDB says Melich is "always subject to recall" Laughs around Courtroom. Melich talks to Burdich as he leaves.
Asked about education and kept talking and going on about how she got jobs. Casey smiled as Ashton objected about narrative. *She was trying to be entertaining I guess.* She runs down certification/ experience / etc. She is a traumatologist. She says traumatologists interact with first responders, often to help with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder onset.
*some technical troubles due to weather here. At one moment they had audio trouble and it appeared President Obama was testifying! LOL*
This witness is going all over the place. Judge has to tell her to listen and answer only question asked.
She doesn't charge patients. Says she treats people for free. Gets referrals from agencies in community.
Ashton has objected several times saying Karioth is not answering question and giving narrative. Karioth said she was a contributor to the "Chicken Soup" books. *the defense keeps bringing in the clowns!* It was mentioned yesterday in the trial, that she has not interviewed Casey. The defense wants Karioth accepted as expert in Grief and trauma. State objects.
Ashton questions her on journals she has worked on. Ashton asks about articles she's authored...she lists some. JA: What peer-review journals? She names it, says it's online. Witness says book she contributed to for Parents mag was peer reviewed by Barnes & Noble! Ashton reminds her that Barnes & Noble is a publishing company! He also explains to her what Peer Review is. Peer review is a process of self-regulation by a profession or a process of evaluation involving qualified individuals within the relevant field. She said the articles she claimed earlier that were peer reviewed were peer reviewed by people at Health Dept. -Sidebar 10
*Source:River Cruz tells source in the hallway, "I'm irate."*
Ashton requested Dorothy Sims sit down and get comfortable while he questions in this voi dire. Karioth says she has testified 12 times about grief. (civil and criminal cases) Ashton objects, she is still accepted as an expert in fields of grief and trauma and she smiles proudly.
Says that people grieve in different ways. A plethora of differences she says. Sidebar after Ashton objects to her not testifying directly to this case.
Casey is forcing tears as Dorothy Sims asks her to take as a hypothetical a 22 year old mother with a 3 year old, who loves her and is an amazing mother, loses her child. DCS: What would be a typical reaction. -Sidebar as Ashton objects. Casey stops crying.
Sims asks same question. Karioth says she has seen mothers who have lost children stay in bed for long periods of time. She also says she has seen moms clean up room, pack everything up and not speak of it. "too painful to have all these memories."Casey "cries" Hypothetical: Drunk mom has car accident and kills baby- Karioth says she's seen "survivor guilt" or mom continue to keep drinking.
SK:Some mothers will go to grave everyday... Others won't go at all. *Casey looks at her fingernails to check if she can stab some tears out of her eyes.*
Sims is still giving hypothetical situations that is the exact life of Casey from pregnancy to missing Caylee. * Casey appears to be emotional during this testimony. Huge difference from when George testified earlier.*
Sims says assume: tiny woman gets pregnant: hid it for 8 mo: girl's mom is a nurse: unwed: lives with parents - (running down assumptions)How would someone grieve?
SK: "Well that was very complex"SK: 2 ways people grieve: Healthy people make the journey, come out on the other side. When family has conspiracy of silence, don't air linen for other people to see, very likely response to trauma would leave others confused as to understanding it. Karioth says it could be typical to have no discussions on the matter. Karioth says in that description (hypothetical) you need to look at everyone in family.
Sims wants to add to this hypothetical. For 31 days mom goes shopping, to bar, gets tattoo, rents movies...
SK: In this situation, like other young adults, they're reluctant grievers, demonstrate risky behavior with drinking, shopping. She calls a young adult in this hypothetical a " reluctant grievers" Drink too much, not talk about it, retail therapy. Casey is in extreme "tears"
SK: I see often risk taking, repeating things that happened to the person, having a great time, spending money *so shouldn't Casey have drowned herself!?*
Karioth said person may look like they are having a good time, get into trouble, or spend money they don't have.
Sims asked how long this type of behavior may last? Karioth said it could last for years.
*Does this Explain ZANY for all these years!!!!!!????* "Denial is a great tool for as long as you can make yourself believe it" said Karioth.
Cross Examination
JA: Being very very very happy consistent with grief? SK: Yes. There are 3 emotions. Is every state of demeanor between happy and sad consistent with grief? JA: Is promiscuity consistent with grief? SK: Maybe taking it too far. Ashton asks about "interest in sex." Karioth says some patients think it can help with grief. Ashton said :"it doesn't matter what hypothetical I give you, you would say it's consistent with grief!" Casey is angry now! She says anything can happen for grief. Karioth says she was first contacted in end of May beginning of June about this case. SK: I don't know the facts of this case. JA: when were you contacted about this case? SK: I got an email in June. I didn't know there was a trial.
SK: When I got the email, I didn't know who the name was at first. She suggested people in Tallahassee. SK: London carried it not at all (she was living there when contacted via email).
JA: Have you ever worked with people who murdered their children?SK: Yes. Susan Smith trial. ( Susan Smith killed her two children and lied about it. She was convicted and is serving life in prison!) *Good job Ashton!* JA: And that was in context of trying to explain why Susan Smith murdered her kids? SK :Yes. Sidebar.
Karioth says "magical thinking" is when someone convinces themselves of something that isn't true. Ashton starts telling Dr. hypotheticals!
Yes, the same story as Casey! *yes, the jury is hearing it all over again! LOL*
Dr. says that person needs HELP! She calls it her "magical thinking" theory.
Ashton says to imaging the mother killed her child! Sims objects and says no evidence. JA: I disagree
*THAT WAS AMAZING!* Again Casey looked PISSED!
Denial is a coping mechanism for grief and guilt. Sims says the witness has not been tended as an expert in guilt. OVERRULED! Ashton said that if it doesn't involve grief, it's out of witnesses scope. She agrees. Ashton says people can compartmentalize a horrible act. Karioth says people can come up with an almost merry way of telling stories. She described difference between delusion and magical thinking. Karioth says magical thinking is not the same as delusion. Agrees that the bond between a mother and child is hard to break. She is excused after saying "I've seen lots of folks who ask for things that seem exquisitely unusual"
Jury is excused for the day.
Baez says the defense thinks they will rest tomorrow. Judge Perry tells state to have witnesses available tomorrow afternoon (just in case). Perry says closings could happen Saturday. But he says he may give attorneys a little extra time. Burdick asks if things don't wrap up Saturday could closing arguments happen Sunday? Judge says possible. Closing can happen saturday. Deliberations could start Sunday.
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